Sager NP9280 - Clevo D900F Owners Lounge

[Xixecel]

Just thought id start a NP9280 thread so we can all pace around an tell each other how we wish out machines were here and brag about them so everyone in the world can see we are 1337.

I need you more than a woman NP9280 . ok more than a woman most of the time :D

-Xixecel

[Justin@XoticPC]

Just what we needed, thanks for the post! :)

[Xixecel]

Awesome, thank you Justin :)

So anyway, i purchased a 5 bay sata gigabit das/nas enclosure for my home server
to go with my new sexy beast machine that has been ordered.
this is goin to be a tight server, i got it at a sweet deal at only $299 and lists for $750
check it out:

http://www.habeyusa.com/StorageArray/ns520.html

bout on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120376604972&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123


Let the good time roll!!!

-Xixecel

[lv2game]

It seems i have been waiting for ever.How much longer do i have to wait?Where is my np9280?Ummmmmmmm.............:confused:

[shadow]

Don't you hate release dates like "late May". i bet Justin is sick of all the calls about when they are coming. Oh, By the way........When is my laptop going to deliver?

[fallenxlionheart]

I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!

whew...jk....but seriously....im dying to get the 9280.....i check my email like 2wice a day to check for a new email from xoticpc lol...good things come to those who wait...

[Capt.Daniel]

I just ordered mine I hope they ship fast

[powerpack]

I just ordered mine I hope they ship fastWelcome to Xotic. I think yours might come fast as you waited and the supply chain is getting up to speed or soon will be. I hope all the other guys get theirs soon also.

This should be called the frustration thread!:p:D:)

[fallenxlionheart]

the wait is painful....

[Xixecel]

ive had to buy other things in the meantime to keep me occupied while i wait for this gem to be built.. on a good note that new star trek movie was sweet and i hate star trek!

-Xixecel
please come soon np9280 gods :D

[fallenxlionheart]

Really? ive never been much of a star trek fan myself...but the previews do look awesome

[Justin@XoticPC]

A bit of a update:


The new Sager NP9280 is ready to ship early next week with the Intel Core i7 920. We understand that many of you have ordered with the Intel Core i7 940 & Core i7 965 XE. Sager is planning to support future Intel® Core™ i7 processors in LGA-1366 package that will be released soon. Sager thinks the new SKU’s will be a better value to customers that have ordered with Core i7 940 & Core i7 965 XE. Sager plans to hold customer shipments of the Core i7 940 & Core i7 965 XE and ship these orders with future Intel® Core™ i7 processors in LGA-1366 package at no extra cost to the customers.

[fallenxlionheart]

wow justin that is really awesome!! still....it means a longer wait...but itl be worth it

[shadow]

O.K. so approx when will my 965 ship? i am in the military so timing is an issue.

[fallenxlionheart]

i have the 940 and would also appreciate having some idea as to when mine will ship... though im really enjoying the idea of an update!! just another reason y xotic pc rocks:notworthy

[LaZZer]

Hmm, a delay for a new processor? That's a bit vague. I'm waiting on my 9280 with a 965. Could we get some more information? What does 'soon' mean? A week, a month, three months? And what does this new processor offer? Did they drop the Nehalem core already? If you could shed any more light on this new turn of events Justin, I'm sure those anxiously waiting for their new systems would greatly appreciate it.

[fallenxlionheart]

i would deffinetly appreciate more info...

[shadow]

wikipedia is talking about an I7 975 releasing at the end of May

[LaZZer]

Good find shadow. That has to be the new processor. If 965s are going to the bloomfield 975 then I'm sure it will be worth the wait. Word on the street is the 975 clocks in at 3.33ghz.

Seems the 975 is looking at a June release. D0 stepping sounds nice if we have the option to overclock.

[fallenxlionheart]

so i shouldn't expect my laptop till around the end of june??? thats a long wait

[shadow]

regardless of what the upgrade is Justin said the ship date should stay about the same.

[fallenxlionheart]

??? so that means the laptop should only get here maybe a few days later??? thats plenty ok for an upgrade...

[LaZZer]

Sorry fallenxlionheart, by June I mean early June. Like first week. I would imagine the delay to be a week at the most. A few vendors have the processor listed with a May 31 ship date.

[fallenxlionheart]

Sorry fallenxlionheart, by June I mean early June. Like first week. I would imagine the delay to be a week at the most. A few vendors have the processor listed with a May 31 ship date.

eh...a week is still not bad for an upgrade? im plenty cool with that
"A few vendors have the processor listed with a May 31 ship date."
Does that mean its confirmed that that is the change of processor?

[LaZZer]

I mean you can buy the CPU from a few sites online for a desktop. If you Google for i7 975 and click shopping you will find a list. Most of them claim the processor will ship by end of May.

[fallenxlionheart]

well thats not bad if its early july... i just wish it wouldnt take so long:( its so hard waiting for such a beast:(

[shadow]

basically you will get it at the same time you would have without an upgrade.the 9280 wasn't supposed to ship until late may anyway. so when you figure that Sager ships to Xotic they do their build thing then they op check the system and do any burn-ins it would be the first week of June or so anyways.

[Xixecel]

So what about us who just ordered it with the initial i7 920 in it, are we gonna be able to get a upgrade and do we have to wait longer or we gonna get them sooner, and as far as waiting i have a eta of May 31 anyway so early next week shipping sounds right on track to me!

And yes Star Trek was sweet, the previews were good, but the movie was better.

-Xixecel

[Fenix90]

So what about us who just ordered it with the initial i7 920 in it, are we gonna be able to get a upgrade and do we have to wait longer or we gonna get them sooner, and as far as waiting i have a eta of May 31 anyway so early next week shipping sounds right on track to me!


You'll just be put on a waiting list like the others who ordered the 9280. I would assume that when we get the notification of our orders being processed.


And yes Star Trek was sweet, the previews were good, but the movie was better.

-Xixecel

I loved the movie. I highly recommend it to anyone who hates Star Trek. Really, it's that good.

[fallenxlionheart]

you guys have convinced me to check out the new star trek film...haha...well itl give me something to do while waiting on my sager

[lv2game]

what does this mean for us 920 owners?We

[DrewB]

@Lv2game


The new Sager NP9280 is ready to ship early next week with the Intel Core i7 920.

So I think 920 owners will have it shipped whatever day they were planned to be shipped, before the other 2.

[lv2game]

Well i quess my question is, Will the 920 be able to be upgraded to a new processor since the 940 and 965 are being upgraded to LGA-1366 for future i7 processors?Is the 920 stuck with no options?

[shadow]

they way i read the post from Justin was the 920 guys may be stuck. When i asked directly about the upcoming updates he said he couldn't comment due to non-disclosure agreement which means we don't know for sure what if any update there will be for sure. i hope it's the 975 but who knows for sure

[fallenxlionheart]

it would be really awesome if you were right shadow

[Xixecel]

id be kinda pissed if they upgrade an screw anyone that ordered the 920.
and if they do pull some crap like that, then more than likely ill pull my order, im on board for full upgrade not stuck with one processor cause some fool decided to get a bug up their ass and upgrade everything but that.. but we will see, i hate jumping to conclusions about as much as i like waiting.

-Xixecel

[shadow]

just remember this has nothing to do with Xotic. this is a Sager or Clevo thing. and how can you get mad if you get exactly what you ordered?

[shadow]

unfortunatly that's the nature of the computer world. the newest item is obsolete by the time it ships

[Xixecel]

if they can change the specs for the 940 an 965 then they can change it for the 920, its not rocket science, i couldnt care less about the 975, i just want to still be able to upgrade to the 965, if they mess that up then yes that does change everything, im not blaming xotic but it changes my intial perspective if that happens, and therefore changes the product. i didnt go with the 920 cause i wanted to, i went with it due to my budget atm, therefore the reasons to upgrade later when i can just buy the processor.

-Xixecel

[shadow]

i think that if you got a 940 or a 965 you get the update. it shouldn't stop you from upgrading later if you got a 920

[Xixecel]

as long as it dont stop the upgrade i dont care about the 975 its not major to me, but making the 920 dead end im sure wont piss just me off!
ugh i just wish it were here then i can just forget about it for a long time!

-Xixecel

[shadow]

they will be here soon

[fallenxlionheart]

not soon enough...:(

[lv2game]

I bought the sager for the upgradeability.I hope they dont forget about us the 920 owners.I too was hopeing to upgrade when i could afford it.Now that they will discontinue sale of the 940 and 965 july 10 whats going to be my options then.I am alittle concerned.Hope sager and xotic can shed some light on this.

[shadow]

true but look at it this way. the more you think about it the longer it will seam to take.

[Xixecel]

thats why ive purchased other items to keep me busy .. but go figure, i have to wait like 10 days for that stuff to arrive to lol, i put myself into a line of waiting for everything lol.. im goin to best buy today to rent a razer mamba, give me somethin to play with until my other stuff comes, then ill take it back an buy it cheaper later lol..

NP9280 come to the darkside...

-Xixecel

[fallenxlionheart]

i did the exact same thing...i purchased a box set of a series i like 2 watch and now im waiting on that 2....ahh..so much waiting

[DrewB]

Maybe you should have taken a drive (time consuming) to buy the books or dvds (also time consuming) and then be able to watch them right away, while killing time! =P

I'm still waiting to job applications to process, so I just watch A LOT of youtube videos (about 7,000 in the last month).

Oh yeah, and see a few movies with friends, when they pay, because I don't have a fricking jerb! =P

[shadow]

i am trying to forget i have one coming. it hasn't worked yet, but i'm trying.

[DrewB]

i am trying to forget i have one coming. it hasn't worked yet, but i'm trying.

Then when the UPS guy comes buy, "what? I'm not signing for this! I never ordered a say-gur thing..."

And yall gotta post reviews when you get them, or I will... ask you kindly..

[Xixecel]

has anyone hit phase 2 yet? that would be a promising sign for the rest of us stuck in phase 1.

-Xixecel

[lv2game]

I read that someone on notebookreview.com got theres shipped today and should arrive on 5/28.Hopefully we should be next.I think i just broke a sweat.....

[KY_BULLET]

"Hurry up and wait"...I was in a big hurry to place the order, just to wait a month to get it...:p

[fallenxlionheart]

has anyone hit phase 2 yet? that would be a promising sign for the rest of us stuck in phase 1.

-Xixecel

I've been in phase 1 since the 14th? Lol

[KY_BULLET]

I ordered mine on the 5th....But I went through another reseller because i didn't know about Xoticpc then:-/

[Pentium2028]

This is my first time buying a Sager notebook. I have ordered mine on the 5th as well through another reseller. Being waiting ever since though and I am getting a little bit restless. Hopefully soon...

[Pentium2028]

Btw from the sound of it, it seems orders with i7 940 & 965 is going to released with newer CPUs (950 & 975EE) until at least the end of the month correct?

[KY_BULLET]

^^^thats correct with a new voltage of: i7 950 at 3.06mhz(was 2.66mhz) and i7 975 at 3.33 mhz(was 3.20mhz)..they will be blazing fast...well hopefully not on fire anyways:eek:

[lv2game]

Mine was ordered on the 4th with the 920.Still waiting...........

[KY_BULLET]

^^^You should be any day...maybe friday :)...I seen that too on notebook forums about the guy that got the shipping notice for the 28th.

[wadwad214]

the intel turbo memory, is it really helping when booting up windows vista? just curious because there's an option for turbo memory for d900f but it is grayed out yet. wondering if there's another version of d900f coming out in the coming months.

http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/prodinfo_2.asp?productid=19

look at the storage section.

can't wait for my d900f!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xixecel]

i dont know if i should be worried or excited, my money for my 9280 got taken today, but i havent recieved an email from Xotic for phase 2 or anything saying there starting building :S

did i ever mention i hate waiting for things lol patience it defiently a virtue!

-Xixecel

[lv2game]

I have very little patience, but what can you do. My money was withdrawn yesterday,still no word.ummmmmmmmmm

[wadwad214]

i don't know if this is a reason for us to be really excited. look at sager's website and look at np9280. =)

oh well, just remembered that the 975 and the other i7 are not available til may 30. =(

hope me watching the rock and stone cold entrance videos and promos / interviews will help me pass by the time.

[KY_BULLET]

I recieved a couple of the accessories today anyway...haha....Got my fan and suede skin...gave me a heart attack when i heard the UPS truck was at my house today:eek:

[lv2game]

Just got a email from xotic, delivery of my 9280 on 5/28 per ups.Yeah.....to long of a wait.Funny it went from phase 1 to phase 4.Oh well I am happy to finely get my hands on it.I will let you guys no how well it runs.

[wadwad214]

good for you! obviously its the 920 i7 processor right? :biggrin:

[Xixecel]

WoOt me too just got an email stating im now in phase 4 and my order has been shipped and due on 6/1.. its soooo close i can taste it!!!!


-Xixecel

[DrewB]

Just got a email from xotic, delivery of my 9280 on 5/28 per ups.Yeah.....to long of a wait.Funny it went from phase 1 to phase 4.Oh well I am happy to finely get my hands on it.I will let you guys no how well it runs.

DO A FULL REVIEW AND POST THAT SHIZ ON YOUTUBE!!!

please:-/

[powerpack]

the intel turbo memory, is it really helping when booting up windows vista? just curious because there's an option for turbo memory for d900f but it is grayed out yet. wondering if there's another version of d900f coming out in the coming months.

http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/prodinfo_2.asp?productid=19

look at the storage section.

can't wait for my d900f!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Intel Turbo Memory is only available on mobile platforms. Since NP9280 is not a mobile platform not offered. But fret not, it is not worthy of consideration and offers little/no benefit unless you intentionally buy too little RAM or remove some of what it came with.;)

[Xixecel]

holy crap i just looked at the tracking info, and my beast is weighing in at a cool 22 pounds boxed lol, awesome, i cant wait to start body building..

-Xixecel

[Pentium2028]

oh boy it's gonna be fun bringing this beast to school lol

i can get my daily exercise just form carrying it

[Fenix90]

I got an email yesterday saying my laptop is shipping to the Nebraska plant to bypass the Cal. tax. Sadly it still says phase 1 for now.

[Xixecel]

maybe after it gets to nebraska then you might get phase 4 when they send it from there? because then it would technically be comming to you, which is phase 4...

-Xixecel

[wadwad214]

Intel Turbo Memory is only available on mobile platforms. Since NP9280 is not a mobile platform not offered. But fret not, it is not worthy of consideration and offers little/no benefit unless you intentionally buy too little RAM or remove some of what it came with.;)

oh, so it doesn`t really matter if i wait for that option to be available then. hmm.. so all i gotta wait is for the 975 i7 processor. man, my patience is running out. i wish i got the ocz 17" laptop. oh well, i just hope it's worth it waiting for the 9280

[powerpack]

oh, so it doesn`t really matter if i wait for that option to be available then. hmm.. so all i gotta wait is for the 975 i7 processor. man, my patience is running out. i wish i got the ocz 17" laptop. oh well, i just hope it's worth it waiting for the 9280It is not likely to ever be offered on the NP9280. As the main theoretical benefit was reduced power draw insofar as hitting the Turbo Memory uses less power than hitting the HDD?

Very clear problem with Intel defining what is the benefit? Sold as a performance boost but still couched as a power saving option? Can't offer both. All but Intel know this. It is so bad as a boost of performance will never be offered on desktops.

I have not followed but to say you wish you got the OCZ 17"? I thought the production and ownership of that model has been a roller coaster. I do see sold here but I think even bigger issues? As said I don't know but do not think you made the wrong choice for so many reasons. ;)

[wadwad214]

It is not likely to ever be offered on the NP9280. As the main theoretical benefit was reduced power draw insofar as hitting the Turbo Memory uses less power than hitting the HDD?

Very clear problem with Intel defining what is the benefit? Sold as a performance boost but still couched as a power saving option? Can't offer both. All but Intel know this. It is so bad as a boost of performance will never be offered on desktops.

I have not followed but to say you wish you got the OCZ 17"? I thought the production and ownership of that model has been a roller coaster. I do see sold here but I think even bigger issues? As said I don't know but do not think you made the wrong choice for so many reasons. ;)

well because i ordered my 9280 like may 1, right after the link for the pre order is up and available. and then a few days ago shipping is delayed because of the cpu upgrade from 965 to 975, if i`m not mistaken. if i ordered the ocz for sure i got it already. and just saw on some website that the ocz gets like 15k on 3dmark06 while the 9280 just gets like 10k - 13k. oh well, i don`t play that much anyway. and 3.2ghz is still better than 2.53ghz. :laugh:

[Xixecel]

I have a friend that custom builds laptops, and they successfully overclock the i7 920 to 4.0 ghz on a constant basis, he has it down. I want him to overclock mine but im wondering if its gonna push to much heat, he has to build extra fans obviously to cover the expanded heat in his desktops... you think its safe to overclock?


-Xixecel

[KY_BULLET]

It pretty sure it will void any warranty you have through wherever you bought it.

Be careful, don't destroy it!!! I would give it some time, Just watch the boards over the next few weeks and learn from someone elses mistakes before trying 4.0 mhz.:D

It's nice to get more out of something for less money though. I just had the extra dough on hand or i would be doing the same thing as you...But, I'm sure someone will figure out a way to overclock the 970's in the future. Then i will be doing the same thing.;)

[br2]

... you think its safe to overclock?
-Xixecel

I'd never overclock a notebook...
Imagine a 22lb machine with a water cooler in it.

Better to get a luggable like these: http://nextcomputing.com/

[KY_BULLET]

well because i ordered my 9280 like may 1, right after the link for the pre order is up and available. and then a few days ago shipping is delayed because of the cpu upgrade from 965 to 975, if i`m not mistaken. if i ordered the ocz for sure i got it already. and just saw on some website that the ocz gets like 15k on 3dmark06 while the 9280 just gets like 10k - 13k. oh well, i don`t play that much anyway. and 3.2ghz is still better than 2.53ghz. :laugh:

I cant find these results...I seen that the 280M GTX W/X9100 scored 11,767 pts. in 3DMark 06 on...http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-280M.14558.0.html

I hope that it will at the very least get 13,000k with 3.33mhz i 7 975 EX...I guess we will see...The OCZ might have been overclocked too...But who knows:confused:

[wadwad214]

the 10k to 13k 3dmark06 scores is actually here on xoticpcforums on 9280. http://www.xoticpcforums.com/showthread.php?t=4034 but i can`t find the 15k score for the ocz. i know i saw it before on some website. oh well, it doesn`t really matter because i got the 9280 anyway. =)

[Xixecel]

It pretty sure it will void any warranty you have through wherever you bought it.

Be careful, don't destroy it!!! I would give it some time, Just watch the boards over the next few weeks and learn from someone elses mistakes before trying 4.0 mhz.:D

This is very true, and your right i should not void my warranty, even tho im purchasing additional warranty from safeware, for accident coverage and acts of god etc.. for $450 that covers $2600 replacement. even with that comfort zone, your right i will wait an see if someone melts their 9280 before i play with mine like that hehehe.

-Xixecel

[Xixecel]

I'd never overclock a notebook...
Imagine a 22lb machine with a water cooler in it.

That would be sweet a water-cooled laptop, now were talking :D

-Xixecel

[shadow]

they are in at Xotic. at least everything but the CPUs. they should be in next week. So close yet so far.

[BKR2879]

I'd never overclock a notebook...


Smart man.

Laptops have enough trouble keeping cool due to being so cramped on space there's barely any room for airflow.

Give it another 5-10 years though, and I bet laptop technology will have liquid cooled systems that keep things at or near room temp.

This of course is dependant on battery tech advancing strongly as well. :)

[shadow]

with a very good cooler you probably could overclock a 9280 with no problems due to all the vents on the bottom but why? regardless of it's power it's still a laptop and will never be able to stand to a desktop. but the speed increase of an overclocked laptop wouldn't be enought to justify burning anything up.

[powerpack]

OC away! Watch temps that is it. I mean come on? All that matters.

I will tell you with a fsb OC RAM is what will limit you.

[BKR2879]

I just tend to be more cautious on laptops because the possible money that could be lost.

Laptops usually cost sooo much more to repair than a desktop PC, so I take no risks with them.

My desktop PC though? OC'd to death, but also cooled VERY well. ;)

[Xixecel]

I would also think if you could keep the temps justifyable then you could OC the thing, but like everyone else is sayin i dont wanna fry it, ill wait for the brave soul to try it an post about it to see the results, better safe than sorry is a good saying im guessin.


-Xixecel

[shadow]

right now there just isn't any reason

[Xixecel]

Your right there is no reason, but there will still be that 1 person that has to be the first to do it :D

-Xixecel

[shadow]

yeah, it will probably be me the first time i think a game is going to slow.

[lv2game]

Well i got this beast up and running.The only complaints i have is i had to run all the updates for windows.It started with 48 and they are still popping up for more.There is a stuck pixel (blue] on one side of the screen but i know how to fix that.just not ready to. Too new.COD4,and COD world at war works great.And this thing gets warm fast while playing games.Other wise i am happy with this unit.I will add more later...

[shadow]

any idea about the battery life yet?

[GreyReaver]

Well i got this beast up and running.The only complaints i have is. . . There is a stuck pixel (blue] on one side of the screen but i know how to fix that, just not ready to...

How do you fix a stuck/frozen pixel?

[KY_BULLET]

You can download a program to run on your computer that is suppose to unstick a pixel..."I think"...I have heard this before but can't remember how exactly

[powerpack]

KY said one way you can also physically rub to get it working. Be gentle!

[GreyReaver]

You can download a program to run on your computer that is suppose to unstick a pixel..."I think"...I have heard this before but can't remember how exactly

Cool, I found a few links about fixing frozen/stuck/dead pixels.

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Stuck-Pixel-on-an-LCD-Monitor

http://techlogg.blogspot.com/2008/02/unstick-those-stuck-pixels.html

http://blog.gwax.com/2006/01/03/unsticking-stuck-lcd-pixels/

[Quixote83]

The np9280 is a sweet idea, but i wonder if getting it barebones with just memory and video card may be the best way to go. Purchasing a proc separately would allow you to be guaranteed a i7 920 with the D0 stepping allowing better oc or running stock speed at lower volts which would be my preference. Also, with multi-layer cell SSDs getting much better. You can now get the low power consuming RiDATA Ultra-S Plus drives and put them in a RAID 0 to get 128GB of system and application storage for around $350 which seems much more reasonable then a single Intel X single-layer cell drive and would still be fast in both read and, more importantly, write. A 2.5" 320GB 7200RPM 16MB cache can be used for any other storage and ordering a Seagate Momentus guarantees you lower power consumption than a WD.

I guess I just wish the SSD choices weren't just ultra high-end SLC drives. any suggestions as to what I should do would be greatly appreciated. I can't make up my mind.

[powerpack]

The np9280 is a sweet idea, but i wonder if getting it barebones with just memory and video card may be the best way to go. Purchasing a proc separately would allow you to be guaranteed a i7 920 with the D0 stepping allowing better oc or running stock speed at lower volts which would be my preference. Also, with multi-layer cell SSDs getting much better. You can now get the low power consuming RiDATA Ultra-S Plus drives and put them in a RAID 0 to get 128GB of system and application storage for around $350 which seems much more reasonable then a single Intel X single-layer cell drive and would still be fast in both read and, more importantly, write. A 2.5" 320GB 7200RPM 16MB cache can be used for any other storage and ordering a Seagate Momentus guarantees you lower power consumption than a WD.

I guess I just wish the SSD choices weren't just ultra high-end SLC drives. any suggestions as to what I should do would be greatly appreciated. I can't make up my mind.I have watched barebones for over a year. Also link me to a NP9280 barebones? OK back on point the only way you save on barebones is if you already owned the components.

I know your idea sounds good on paper but it just does not work. Where are you going to get the CPU you ask of? Cost? I don't know too much about the CO vs DO, yea I know what they are but can you get? Cost?

Those are my thoughts sorry to be a buzz kill.;):)

[BKR2879]

I guess I just wish the SSD choices weren't just ultra high-end SLC drives. any suggestions as to what I should do would be greatly appreciated. I can't make up my mind.

Those "high end" SSD'd are about the only ones worth the money is the thing. Intel makes the best SSD's going at the moment as far as speed and durability, hence the high price.

Other drives have issues ranging from causing the OS to stutter or lag during writes or reads and slowing down drastically over time.

This is my (and Powerpack's) favorite read on SSD's, you may want to give it a read before shelling out the money and then regretting it.

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531

You're on the right track as far as putting the OS on the SSD and all data and temp files on a normal HD, that helps keep the number of writes to the SSD down and helps it last longer.

[powerpack]

BK is correct the best overall on technical. Another very good is this (http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=208242). And would of been better for completely different reasons. It is more of a comparative analysis. Anandtech is more fundamental. Sadly Les and NBR are not on the same page and not updated since 01/09. Les if you see this! Hi!

SSD's are the future but understanding them is very important in my opinion.

Go Wings!

[Xixecel]

go wings!

yes.. Go wings!!!!

[powerpack]

yes.. Go wings!!!!For the kid's if they don't get it?

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:lr2atgq2p1ag6M:http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/logos/nhl/detroit_red_wings_1995.gif

:D:)

[Quixote83]

I have watched barebones for over a year. Also link me to a NP9280 barebones? OK back on point the only way you save on barebones is if you already owned the components.

I know your idea sounds good on paper but it just does not work. Where are you going to get the CPU you ask of? Cost? I don't know too much about the CO vs DO, yea I know what they are but can you get? Cost?

Those are my thoughts sorry to be a buzz kill.;):)

Finding i7 920s with the D0 stepping is pretty easy. They're on ebay brand new and the go for the same price as a 920 anywhere else, about $290.

As far as finding a barebones 9280 I haven't seen any anywhere, but had thought about seeing if I could order from xotic and just not have a proc or HDDs. I had asked Justin about being able to do that on the Sager 8662 and he said he'd be able to, but I'm not sure about this model.

The main reason I want to have the specific components are mainly for power conservation and battery life. I definitely would love having two of those Intel SLC SSDs, but the cost would put me way over budget and there aren't any MLC drives available for purchase with the 9280.

I appreciate the help greatly though. Thanks.

[Quixote83]

One other quick thing that I had read. It seems as though if you stripe two SSDs the stutter problem seen on MLC drives can be minimized because the writes are split to both drives. I have yet to see this in practice, but would offer the ability to keep all OS files including temp files on the SSDs with out using the HDD which would be convenient if nothing else.

Thanks for all the input guys.

[BKR2879]

One other quick thing that I had read. It seems as though if you stripe two SSDs the stutter problem seen on MLC drives can be minimized because the writes are split to both drives. I have yet to see this in practice, but would offer the ability to keep all OS files including temp files on the SSDs with out using the HDD which would be convenient if nothing else.

Thanks for all the input guys.

You may not see stutter, but the constant writes will still be killing off the drives and degrading performance in general over time.

For an SSD you want to write to it as little as possible.

[fallenxlionheart]

I really wanted to put my OS on a SSD but the performance degradation worried me 2 the point that I just said 4get it...

[mupet]

I really wanted to put my OS on a SSD but the performance degradation worried me 2 the point that I just said 4get it...

Exactly, u read my mind ..this is the reason i still using conventional HD...btw..i think we were off topic here :-/

[fallenxlionheart]

Yeah we shold be focused on the 9280 here. Which btw I'm still dying to get

[Xixecel]

Mines out for delivery.. sigh.. now i have to wait all day at work knowing its gonna be here when i get home.. UPS needs to deliver on sundays this isnt fair i wanted to play with it at work all day lol..

-Xixecel

[GreyReaver]

It seems i have been waiting for ever.How much longer do i have to wait?Where is my np9280?Ummmmmmmm.............

I was being so patient but, I apparently hit a wall this weekend. Someone please tell me the 950s and 975s are shipping this week!

[powerpack]

Didn't Intel say shipping like the 3rd? I guess I read some already have but sounds like Intel is controlling the release date?

[GreyReaver]

Didn't Intel say shipping like the 3rd? I guess I read some already have but sounds like Intel is controlling the release date?

Provantage.com does not show any of the i7 975s in-stock but they have 449 of the i7 950 in-stock.

http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx80601950~7ITEP329.htm

And, I thought I read a forum post (either notebookreview.com or notebookforums.com) that the 9280s with the i7 950s & 975s would ship 6/3.

[fallenxlionheart]

Xotic pc has already taken my money out of my account so I hope they ship it soon to give me a piece of mind

[shadow]

that depends on the CPU. if you got a 920 then it should. the others are still coming from intel

[Pentium2028]

man, this is the longest time I ever had to wait for a laptop. it's almost a month now. HURRY UP INTEL lol

[fallenxlionheart]

I just hit phase 2 whooooo!!!! I have a 940

[KY_BULLET]

when you hit phase 2, does this mean they give you a ship date?...I didn't order mine from xoticpc unfortunetly:(...just want to know when maybe i can expect mine...I wish the other places did the phase thing

[BKR2879]

Phase 2 is assembly (assuming all parts end up being available)

Phase 3 is skinning I believe (If you chose the option)

Phase 4 is shipping (Won't know until you get there)

My order went in on May 15th for my machine (an 8662) but cpu shortages are causing problems all over, not just here.

[wadwad214]

Finally after 32 days, PHASE 2! My laptop is freezing like hell while I'm typing this. Hope Justin sees this because I'm just wondering if there's a faster way of doing the Phase 2 thing, maybe like 12 - 24 hrs testing then ship. :biggrin:
Better than like 3 - 7 business days. OMG! :eeek2:
And another thing, the overnight shipping, is Saturday included? Please? :yes:

[RidMar]

I'm going nuts waiting for mine. Mine has the extreme edition processor in it so I have the extra wait for that.

*Starts to bounce off the walls.*

sorry... if you cant tell, i'm impatiant.

[Xixecel]

I recieved mine yesterday, and after a minor mishap tryin to install win 7 i finally figured out my windows disk were the issue, if anyone get a os less system an you get a invalid disk error, then try a new disk, if that dont work, try another new disk.. i tried all my vista 64 editions an i have all of them, and windows 7 with the same error, after 3 new windows 7 disks i finally got a burn that worked without flaw, this is beast blows away the competition.. sorry ladies you just didnt "blow" the competition away :D
I love this machine... lol .. i brought it to work an they thought it was a
lcd tv lol ...
It is true .... "good things come to those who wait" ... i still hate waiting
wish my 5 1tb hdd for my server would get here now lol!

-Xixecel

[fallenxlionheart]

When my 9280 gets here I think I might cry of joy.. Lol.. I'm such a geek

[powerpack]

I recieved mine yesterday, and after a minor mishap tryin to install win 7 i finally figured out my windows disk were the issue, if anyone get a os less system an you get a invalid disk error, then try a new disk, if that dont work, try another new disk.. i tried all my vista 64 editions an i have all of them, and windows 7 with the same error, after 3 new windows 7 disks i finally got a burn that worked without flaw, this is beast blows away the competition.. sorry ladies you just didnt "blow" the competition away :D
I love this machine... lol .. i brought it to work an they thought it was a
lcd tv lol ...
It is true .... "good things come to those who wait" ... i still hate waiting
wish my 5 1tb hdd for my server would get here now lol!

-XixecelI want 3DMark with/without HTT default for comparison? I want wPrime set threads to 4 and 8 without HTT and 4/8/16 w/HTT.

Please:)

[lv2game]

I received my 9280 and its great.I noticed that i got a syringe of Aritic Sliver with my stuff.Does any body know if thats a extra syringe or do we have to apply it ourselves?I really hate to open this thing up.I know as soon as i do there goes something wrong along with my warranty.Any body have any ideas?

[Justin@XoticPC]

^That is just extra for future use. :)

[LaZZer]

Have any i7 975s hit phase 2 yet?

[br2]

Have any i7 975s hit phase 2 yet?

I ordered the 965 so i think that means i'm getting the 975...?
mine hit phase 2 yesterday.

[lv2game]

Thanks Justin!!

[RidMar]

My 975 is on phase 3

[wadwad214]

OMFG!!! :eeek2: 22 lbs?!?! i think my package contains a TANK!!! i hate waiting!!! phase 4 finally!!!

[LaZZer]

Hit phase 2 today! Hoping with overnight shipping and requesting no hard drive I can get my hands on it by Saturday.

[KY_BULLET]

Man!!! im stuck here in China...Won't be able to see mine till June 20th.

I can't wait to see some numbers on these machines.

Dont forget to post some pics and some numbers guys and right some reviews when you all get them.:cool:

[wadwad214]

Got mine!! i7 975!! Thx Justin for the fast shipping!! Thought I'll get mine on Friday or Saturday. Okay for the fun part, (maybe not) I don't have any background on doing OC but I checked the BIOS, NO OC options. I checked every option that you can change, nothing cpu related, if I'm not mistaken its the boot options. I'll check again but I'm pretty sure no OC options. Maybe thru some other way but not BIOS. Oh well, I just want the processing power anyway. Blu ray is perfect, just lagged on me the first time, (maybe its just unlucky me) but now it works great!! camera is great too. super clear screen. my wei kinda sucks though but its not because of the cpu or the ram, its the disk data transfer (320gb 7200 rpm). sound is great, really loud!! i have it on 50%. Can't think of anything right now. =) Thx again Justin!

[br2]

Monday Monday, so good to me... Phase 4... woohoo.

[WWC]

... Blu ray is perfect, just lagged on me the first time, (maybe its just unlucky me) but now it works great!...

Does the 9280 come with software to play Blu-Ray movies?

The HDMI description says "Your TV will become a first-rate PC monitor or allow you to enjoy movies saved on your computer in full HD on a larger screen."

I'd like to be able to play "Hollywood" Blu-Rays on the big screen. But, the careful wording seems to say no to that capability.

WWC

[LaZZer]

Just unboxed my 9280. I opted not to have a hard drive since I ordered my own SSDs. Well I opened the notebook up and I don't have a slot to plug them into. I am even missing the screws for the internal bracket that holds the drives. I'm contacting support right now as I type this.

[fallenxlionheart]

man everyone is getting there 9280... im still on phase 2... i wonder how much longer ill be... come on xotic you can do it...

[LaZZer]

Ok! If you can't find your manual, parts, drivers. Look in bag's front pouch. You will find your missing pieces in there. I just freaked out and Joseph helped me out again.

[PHOTOVIDEO]

Guess what, I ordered my Sager NP9280 (Built on Clevo D900F) (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2577{76}1296{187}1757 {94}1074{92}2406{88}2351{186}1532{93}1789{112}655{ 98}1295{96}2434{97}2434{192}2434{104}1937{168}1453 {116}696{117}705{120}703{110}2426{169}1449{119}708 {100}734{164}1441{107}689{106}1096{108}710{109}711 {170}1492{173}1175{167}1452{103}1890{113}1413{111} 1414{69}714)

- Intel Core i7 Quad Extreme (Nehalem) 975 3.33GHz 8MB Cache 130W
- nVidia GeForce GTX 280M 1,024MB PCI-Express DDR3 DX10 (User Upgradeable)
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 6,144MB DDR3 1066MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS)
- Custom Fitted Laptop Back LCD Skin (A Surface) [Choose from our designs or your own Graphic or Logo (Details of design made after order)] * Will add 4-7 business days on order
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- Raid 5 Stripe with Parity Enabled (Requires 3 Hard Drives
- ~Windows Vista Business 64-Bit

and just got emailed a day later... wait 7 business days due to pre-order backup. Waaaaaaaa......

I can't wait !! :( :( :(

[KY_BULLET]

Guess what, I ordered my Sager NP9280 (Built on Clevo D900F) (http://www.xoticpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=2577{76}1296{187}1757 {94}1074{92}2406{88}2351{186}1532{93}1789{112}655{ 98}1295{96}2434{97}2434{192}2434{104}1937{168}1453 {116}696{117}705{120}703{110}2426{169}1449{119}708 {100}734{164}1441{107}689{106}1096{108}710{109}711 {170}1492{173}1175{167}1452{103}1890{113}1413{111} 1414{69}714)

- Intel Core i7 Quad Extreme (Nehalem) 975 3.33GHz 8MB Cache 130W
- nVidia GeForce GTX 280M 1,024MB PCI-Express DDR3 DX10 (User Upgradeable)
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 6,144MB DDR3 1066MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS)
- Custom Fitted Laptop Back LCD Skin (A Surface) [Choose from our designs or your own Graphic or Logo (Details of design made after order)] * Will add 4-7 business days on order
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- Raid 5 Stripe with Parity Enabled (Requires 3 Hard Drives
- ~Windows Vista Business 64-Bit

and just got emailed a day later... wait 7 business days due to pre-order backup. Waaaaaaaa......

I can't wait !! :( :( :(

7 DAYS!!!! OMG!!!

I have been waiting since may 5th...:eek:

Get in line;)

btw....Nice set-up reminds me of mine...:)

[wadwad214]

Does the 9280 come with software to play Blu-Ray movies?

The HDMI description says "Your TV will become a first-rate PC monitor or allow you to enjoy movies saved on your computer in full HD on a larger screen."

I'd like to be able to play "Hollywood" Blu-Rays on the big screen. But, the careful wording seems to say no to that capability.

WWC


yeah, it comes with cyberlink power dvd bd edition. but to play blu ray you need to open the program 1st then press play. it works better for me because at first i put the blu ray in then i tried to play it but it lags on me. i'm not sure but maybe because i didn't register my powerdvd yet. maybe if i'm not lazy later i'll register mine and see if it stops lagging on me. =)

[Xixecel]

I received my 9280 and its great.I noticed that i got a syringe of Aritic Sliver with my stuff.Does any body know if thats a extra syringe or do we have to apply it ourselves?I really hate to open this thing up.I know as soon as i do there goes something wrong along with my warranty.Any body have any ideas?

Did he get the extra silver on accident? because i didnt get any in my bag of goodies oO

-Xixecel

[DrewB]

How are the fans on this? Compared to a normal (gma graphics) laptop? =D

[GreyReaver]

My system just arrived!

Here is a teaser!

<a href="http://s590.photobucket.com/albums/ss345/GreyReaver/?action=view&current=IMG_1724.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss345/GreyReaver/IMG_1724.jpg" border="0" alt="sager,np9280"></a>

I'm gonna be offline for a bit while I open her up, update, explore and perform a pcMark and 3dMark. Woot Toot da Loot! 8D

[GreyReaver]

Here are the latest images from my machine:

http://s590.photobucket.com/albums/s...albumview=grid (http://s590.photobucket.com/albums/ss345/GreyReaver/?albumview=grid)

[GreyReaver]

I am still updating Vista Ultimate, but, I only have a Windows Experience Index of only 3.3. Because my "Disk Data Transfer Rate" is only 3.3. All of the other indexes are 5.9. How do I improve my DDTR? Or, is that the max with (3) 320gb 7200 rpm HDs in Raid 5?

[DrewB]

How's the fan noise? ^^

[wadwad214]

the fan noise? what noise? its pretty quiet. :biggrin:

[DrewB]

the fan noise? what noise? its pretty quiet. :biggrin:

DAMNIT!

I mean, I'm glad to hear, or not hear the fan noise (cwutididtharr), but it makes my final decission even harder!

[wadwad214]

well, wait for other comments first, maybe some have noisy fans. but mine's pretty quiet. my year old toshiba is more noisy compared to this 9280 with i7 975. why don't you buy a 9280 already? thinking about the "allpowerful"? :wink2:

[KY_BULLET]

I wouldn't doubt if the 'all powerful' doesn't start having cooling problems...Quads run on the warm side and with 2 280m GTX's, sounds like a recipe for thermal meltdown(just my opinion of course).:eeek2:

I seen on another site that alienware seems to market things too quick without putting much time into R.D.... Unlike Sager

On the other hand if everything goes good in the cooling department, then it will be one hell of a machine(Just my opinion of course):notworthy

[wadwad214]

to anyone who have this lappy already, how to access the BIOS? maybe there's another way except F2? thanks!

[shadow]

has anyone looked at Alienwares All powerful? it is a sweet looking laptop. if you did look did you notice the web site and the sites customization section. it looks very similar to Dells. i guess Dells absorbtion of Alien ware is complete. they now use the same site and if you look closely the XPS is dead. but the All powerfull has many of the same chasis elements. it's a sad state of affairs.

[br2]

How do I improve my DDTR? Or, is that the max with (3) 320gb 7200 rpm HDs in Raid 5?

that's the price of Raid5 security

[KY_BULLET]

If that is the best raid 5 can do then it will be getting shipped back to sager to have it removed unless i can figure it out myself.

I can't believe it would hurt performance that much...Must be something wrong.

My little toshiba laptop with 160 gb gets 4.9 on DDTR in vista score.:eeek2:

[br2]

raid fault tolerance is bit of overkill for a notebook, imo. that's what backup is for.
i like raid0, i have raid10 on my production server. i wouldn't use 5 or 1 except on a system disk that has very few writes.

i think the raid is a switch on the motherboard. thec support can probably talk you thru it on the phone.

[KY_BULLET]

raid fault tolerance is bit of overkill for a notebook, imo. that's what backup is for.
i like raid0, i have raid10 on my production server. i wouldn't use 5 or 1 except on a system disk that has very few writes.

i think the raid is a switch on the motherboard. thec support can probably talk you thru it on the phone.

As far as i know mine hasen't been shipped yet.

I emailed PCTorque(thats where i bought it, just didn't know about Xotic or i would have went there)and asked them to remove it and set up raid 0 if this is the fallback to raid 5. Unless, they have a solution to the problem. If it has shipped then it will go back if this is the outcome.

I would rather back it up periodically rather than having it shuttering and stuttering on every game you try to play

[GreyReaver]

How's the fan noise? ^^


i agree fan noise? what fan noise? My NZXT Cyro LX laptop cooler is louder than the laptop and the 3 120mm fans in the cooler are not that loud at all. infact they are barely noticable.

here is a review of the NZXT Cryo LX laptop cooler:

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nzxt_cryo_lx/

[GreyReaver]

raid fault tolerance is bit of overkill for a notebook, imo. that's what backup is for.
i like raid0, i have raid10 on my production server. i wouldn't use 5 or 1 except on a system disk that has very few writes.

i think the raid is a switch on the motherboard. thec support can probably talk you thru it on the phone.

I am going to call them on Monday and have them walk me through switching to Raid 0. I'll let you know what I find out.

After the Volume initialization process finished. I ran a new performance test and my data transfer rate is now 5.6, it probably didn't help that I was playing WoW at the same time. btw, I am getting between 45 and 50 fps in wow.

[Zedmec]

Just ordered mine can't wait!

i7 920 | 6gb DDR3 | 80gb SSD | 500gb 7200rpm| 280m GTX 1gb

[Zedmec]

raid fault tolerance is bit of overkill for a notebook, imo. that's what backup is for.
i like raid0, i have raid10 on my production server. i wouldn't use 5 or 1 except on a system disk that has very few writes.

i think the raid is a switch on the motherboard. thec support can probably talk you thru it on the phone.


you should be able to change the raid config in windows with intel's raid tool, it is on their web page, it's their chip after all.

it's called intel matrix storage manager

hope it helps

waiting on a new NP9280 :biggrin:

[shadow]

Question: do the fans on the bottom suck air in or blow it out? i am assuming they suck in. would someone who has one please let me know.

thanks

[KY_BULLET]

I don't have one 'yet' but, I know they suck it throught the bottom and blow it out the back

[DrewB]

well, wait for other comments first, maybe some have noisy fans. but mine's pretty quiet. my year old toshiba is more noisy compared to this 9280 with i7 975. why don't you buy a 9280 already? thinking about the "allpowerful"? :wink2:

I need a job first :(

And I was considering the m17, for it may have support for dual 4850s or 4870s in the future.

[GreyReaver]

GreyReaver’s Sager NP9280 3DMarkVantage Hardware details
General information

Operating system
Microsoft Windows Vista
System type
64-bit
Motherboard manufacturer
CLEVO CO.
Motherboard model
D900F
Hard drive model
Volume0
Memory
6144 MB
Module 1
2048 MB
Module 2
2048 MB
Module 3
2048 MB


Processor information
Processor
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz
Processor clock
3067 MHz
Physical / logical processors
1 / 8
Multicore
4 Processor Cores
FSB
Unknown


Display information
Graphics card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 180M
Graphics card vendor
Nvidia Corp
Graphics memory
1024
Core clock
583
Memory clock
950
Driver name
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280M
Driver version
8.15.11.8585
Driver status
WHQL - Not FM Approved
Linked display adapters
No

Result details
Benchmark settings
Program Version
3DMark Vantage Revision 0 Hotfix 1
Preset
Performance
Physics Processor Name
Resolution
1280x1024
MSAA
Off
Anisotropy
1x
Texture Filtering
Optimal
Texture Quality
Low
Shader Quality
Low
Shadow Shader Quality
Low
Shadow Resolution Quality
Low
Post-Processing Scale
1:2
Fixed Framerate
Off
PPU Disabled
False
Graphics Processors
1 GPU
Disable Bloom
False
Disable Streaks
False
Disable Anamorphic Flare
False
Disable Lens Flare
False
Disable Lenticular Halo
False
Disable Motion Blur
False
Disable DOF
False
Disable FOG
False
Disable Color Noise
False
Flush On Low FPS
False


Main test results
3DMark Score
P6734 3DMarks
CPU Score
36494
Graphics Score
5294


Test Results
Graphics Tests
Jane Nash
15.7 FPS
New Calico
15.31 FPS
CPU Tests
AI Test
2602.63 Operations/s
Physics Test
109.82 Operations/s
Feature Tests
Texture Fill Test
519.29 GTexels/s
Color Fill Test
2.89 GPixels/s
Pixel Shader
18.61 FPS
Stream Out
19 FPS
GPU Particles
23.26 FPS
Perlin Noise
24.2 FPS

Main test results3DMark ScoreP6734 3DMarksCPU Score36494 Graphics Score5294 Test ResultsGraphics Tests Jane Nash15.7 FPS New Calico15.31 FPS CPU Tests AI Test2602.63 Operations/s Physics Test109.82 Operations/s Feature Tests Texture Fill Test519.29 GTexels/s Color Fill Test2.89 GPixels/s Pixel Shader18.61 FPS Stream Out19 FPS GPU Particles23.26 FPS Perlin Noise24.2 FPS

[NP9280owner]

Question: do the fans on the bottom suck air in or blow it out? i am assuming they suck in. would someone who has one please let me know.

thanks

They suck air in, and it blows out the back. Nice little space heater.

I have a board the size of the bottom of the laptop that I place on my lap, then I place the laptop on top of that to allow the laptop to breath. I am afraid without the board, I may block these fans and cause overheating.

I love the machine, I installed windows 7, and I am playing Crysis on full and it runs great.

[NP9280owner]

I am looking for some assistance.
I have installed Windows 7 on my 9280, and there is one device that is unknown in the device manager. I assume this device is the bluetooth adapter since it is the only thing that doesnt show up.

I am unable to find any information on the manufacture/model of the bluetooth device, nor am I able to find drivers for it on the drivers cd. If you have an NP9280 with Vista on it factory installed, could you please go in to device manager and post a reply to this message letting me know who the manufacture of the bluetooth card is and a model if possible.

I would really apreciate it.

Thanks

[fallenxlionheart]

Wish my 9280 would ship.... Seems like its takin longer than it should

[Capt.Daniel]

Me too I am still waiting for mine to ship still in phase I

[KY_BULLET]

Mines on the way!!! Should recieve it the 10th...But, I aslo ordered mine on may 8th so, be patient the beast will arrive soon enough:cool:

[shadow]

mine shipped on the 3rd so it sould be there tomorrow

[wadwad214]

I am looking for some assistance.
I have installed Windows 7 on my 9280, and there is one device that is unknown in the device manager. I assume this device is the bluetooth adapter since it is the only thing that doesnt show up.

I am unable to find any information on the manufacture/model of the bluetooth device, nor am I able to find drivers for it on the drivers cd. If you have an NP9280 with Vista on it factory installed, could you please go in to device manager and post a reply to this message letting me know who the manufacture of the bluetooth card is and a model if possible.

I would really apreciate it.

Thanks

To access bluetooth press fn + f12. Forgot the bluetooth manufacturer. Sorry I'm using my Toshiba right now that's connected to my 40" LCD TV. :wink2:
Bad resolution though. Anyone knows anything that will upconvert my res from 1024 x 768 [laptop] to 1920 x 1080 [lcd tv] Thanks! :biggrin:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3604/bluetooth.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3604/bluetooth.jpg)

Took a picture of my device manager. Hope that helps. Or just to be sure just do a clean install. :smile2: Coz I did the same thing earlier just because I thought I bought Vista Ultimate so I better use it even though I like Win 7.

[fallenxlionheart]

i guess mine should ship anytime now....it was sent to production on the first....its on the 6th business day and it said it would ship within 7 business days. so? maybe today or tommorow itl ship?

[InkBlot]

I am looking for some assistance.
I have installed Windows 7 on my 9280, and there is one device that is unknown in the device manager. I assume this device is the bluetooth adapter since it is the only thing that doesnt show up.

I am unable to find any information on the manufacture/model of the bluetooth device, nor am I able to find drivers for it on the drivers cd. If you have an NP9280 with Vista on it factory installed, could you please go in to device manager and post a reply to this message letting me know who the manufacture of the bluetooth card is and a model if possible.

I would really apreciate it.

Thanks

I'm running Win7 on an NP8662, but I also had an unknown device show up. It wasn't the bluetooth - that has to be turned on (try [Fn] + [F12]), and windows will likely install it just fine. It's probably the SD card reader Sager uses, which is on the disc under "creader" for the 8662.

Hope this helps.

[NP9280owner]

I'm running Win7 on an NP8662, but I also had an unknown device show up. It wasn't the bluetooth - that has to be turned on (try [Fn] + [F12]), and windows will likely install it just fine. It's probably the SD card reader Sager uses, which is on the disc under "creader" for the 8662.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the info, I will give the [Fn] + [F12] a try. The sd reader is working fine.
The unknown device may be the bluetooth, since I have not tried the fn + f12 if that works it will probably show the device in device manager.

[ChaosTheory]

Hi folks, I should be receiving my 9280 tomorrow, and will soon be bringing it to the deserts of the Middle East. I've read that some guys have done this already and have had few, if any, problems. However, with that said, since I will be 'stuck' there for at least a year, I'm wondering if there's a way to rig up some sort of ghetto-rugged system to keep the dust out. I'm not so much worried about the heat, as I'm bringing a cooler with me and opted for an SSD drive (rugged, cool-running, oh yeah and fast!). But everyone I've talked to that's spent time there say the dust, even in 'clean' buildings which I expect to be in mostly, is insane and gets into everything. I've heard horror stories of fried electronics, including laptops because of the dust, and I really don't think compressed air cans for routine cleaning will be available.

So... First I'd like to find an adhesive keyboard cover like you find on rugged or semi-rugged systems. I've just never shopped for these before, and I want something specific to the 9280 if possible. I'm assuming the keyboard layout is similar to other Clevo designs so there's gotta be something out there, right?

Second, I'm wondering if there's a foam filter system that can be developed that will act sorta like a cigarrette butt for my intake fans on the bottom. Just enough to collect the dust but STILL allow enough airflow to keep everything cool. I really have no problem duct taping something to the lappy as a temporary fix while I'm over there (hence my 'ghetto' analogy).

Any ideas? Anything I'm missing?

[NP9280owner]

Thanks for the info, I will give the [Fn] + [F12] a try. The sd reader is working fine.
The unknown device may be the bluetooth, since I have not tried the fn + f12 if that works it will probably show the device in device manager.

Thanks to everyone who suggested pressing the Fn + F12. this enabled the bluetooth and the drivers were installed. I no longer have any unknown devices in my device manager.

[shadow]

i got mine today. After a full charge and discharge i can tell you that the battery lasts 1 hr 4 mins while watching a movie with the power setting on POWER SAVER. Not very long. on the plus side everything looks fantastic. i have a 5.9 score across the board. this thing is smokin fast.

[uavmx]

get some parts in already!! waiting sucks!

[KY_BULLET]

i got mine today. After a full charge and discharge i can tell you that the battery lasts 1 hr 4 mins while watching a movie with the power setting on POWER SAVER. Not very long. on the plus side everything looks fantastic. i have a 5.9 score across the board. this thing is smokin fast.

What is your specs. shadow?

[RidMar]

Ugggg.... Mine has been on phase 3 for over a week now. they said it would only be 4 to 7 days extra, its been 8 days now. I should not have gotten it custom skinned.

[shadow]

top of the line everything

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

RidMar (http://www.xoticpcforums.com/member.php?u=11629)
The status update was posted to your account on Wednesday 06/03/2009 09:20:05 AM and that update stated "Your machine is currently in transit to our skinning facility, and skinning will begin in 2-3 business days."

Your notebook was received at our custom skinning facility on Monday the 8th and custom skinning for the A surface takes approximately 4-7 business days. Today is currently the 3rd business day in the custom skinning process and we estimate for your notebook to be shipped the first part of next week once custom skinning is completed. :)

If you have any further questions, please feel free to email me :)

Thanks

[RidMar]

RidMar (http://www.xoticpcforums.com/member.php?u=11629)
The status update was posted to your account on Wednesday 06/03/2009 09:20:05 AM and that update stated "Your machine is currently in transit to our skinning facility, and skinning will begin in 2-3 business days."

Your notebook was received at our custom skinning facility on Monday the 8th and custom skinning for the A surface takes approximately 4-7 business days. Today is currently the 3rd business day in the custom skinning process and we estimate for your notebook to be shipped the first part of next week once custom skinning is completed. :)

If you have any further questions, please feel free to email me :)

Thanks

WHOOO HOOO!!!! Thanks!!! you guys are great!!!!

You may want to mention that the shipping time is not included in the skinning time estimate, but that's just my two cents worth.

Thanks a ton!! :biggrin:

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

You're welcome, Feel free to send me an email if you have any further questions that i can help with :)

[some1new00]

So, first off, I love this beast of a laptop. However, I've got a few questions. First off, I can't figure out how to turn off the tap to click feature. Secondly, how hot should the i7 975 be running? And last, why does the 975 show up as 8 different cpu's instead of 4 on my cpu monitoring widget? OH, is there a widget that I can get to display the temp of my cpu and stuff, too?
Thanks for the help,
~Some1

Edit> maybe someone could tell me how to set the gaming buttons too...

[KY_BULLET]

Can't help you with the first two but, HWMonitor works good on temp readings...It checks your hdd, cpu, Gpu, battery.

[some1new00]

Can't help you with the first two but, HWMonitor works good on temp readings...It checks your hdd, cpu, Gpu, battery.
Cool, that's one down, although I would have preferred a gadget like vista uses that shows up on the sidebar. Thanks for your help, KY Bullet!!

[porky133]

Four cores, hyper-threaded (or what ever they are calling it these days) means eight logical processors to show up on the widgets. Can't help with the rest of it.

Question of my own: is the keyboard backlit?

[porky133]

Sorry to double post but for some1new00: try cpu meter for Vista. Make sure to get the temp enabled one and then grab speedfan to get the temps to read out for the cpu cores.

[KY_BULLET]

Four cores, hyper-threaded (or what ever they are calling it these days) means eight logical processors to show up on the widgets. Can't help with the rest of it.

Question of my own: is the keyboard backlit?

no backlit:(

[porky133]

Bummer. Thanks for the reply. I really want this machine but I also crave something a bit flashier. I liked the look and build of the Asus W90vp but don't trust the ATI video cards. I do however, like the styling of the 9850.

Guess I'll just sleep on it.

[KY_BULLET]

I like the way the lid looks with the lighted SAGER emblem on the NP9850:cool:

[NP9280owner]

So, first off, I love this beast of a laptop. However, I've got a few questions. First off, I can't figure out how to turn off the tap to click feature. Secondly, how hot should the i7 975 be running? And last, why does the 975 show up as 8 different cpu's instead of 4 on my cpu monitoring widget? OH, is there a widget that I can get to display the temp of my cpu and stuff, too?
Thanks for the help,
~Some1

Edit> maybe someone could tell me how to set the gaming buttons too...

Ok, for the tap to click. You should have a touchpad application installed. You should be able to go in to the touchpad app and turn off the tap to click.

I have the 920 cpu, and at idle the 4 cores run around 50 to 55C. on full load the cpu gets to around 71C.

This beast does run hot compared to my quad core Q6600 desktop which idle's around 30C.

Hope this helps.

[porky133]

KY BULLET: I agree, the 9850 is much flashier with the led's and backlit keyboard. Dual GPU's don't hurt either. Just wish it had more CPU under the hood.

[uavmx]

whats the benefit of more CPU if it has an insane amount of GPU?

[KY_BULLET]

Because the CPU always bottlenecks the GPU...But, the QX9300 can be OC to 2.9 Ghz that always helps out this situation.

[RidMar]

My girlfriend wants to strangle me cause I'm so impatient to get mine. It's taking longer cause I got mine skinned. If I'm right it should get to me around the end of this week or early next week.

[WWC]

Any reason not to get the NP9280 with a 80Gig SSD primary drive and a 500Gig secondary drive. I do a lot of HD video editing and I'm thinking the SSD drive would give crazy fast boot ups and dramatically improve video rendering times.

[KY_BULLET]

I don't think you could find a better machine for your needs:cool:

[powerpack]

Any reason not to get the NP9280 with a 80Gig SSD primary drive and a 500Gig secondary drive. I do a lot of HD video editing and I'm thinking the SSD drive would give crazy fast boot ups and dramatically improve video rendering times.Yes. SSD's can't write to a page only a block. So especially when drive gets closer to full. Unlike a HDD which can say just write the changes the SSD must rewrite the entire block. I am not an expert in video encoding but slower writes on SSD's because of this does cause me some concern. A RAID0 could easily out perform a SSD in write heavy tasks.

W7 is supposed to have a feature called "trim" that should reduce this fundamental structural/physical issue SSD's have. I have concern as to whether even "trim" can compensate for large data situations.

New tech is great but it is also a bastard. Good luck.;):)

[fallenxlionheart]

i got an email the other day saying sager ran out of the np9280 and are waiting for a new shipment.... i just keep getting pushed back...its taking quite a long time to get my laptop here

[fallenxlionheart]

i hate to say it...but honestly? i feel like xoticpc is blowing me off

[KY_BULLET]

i got an email the other day saying sager ran out of the np9280 and are waiting for a new shipment.... i just keep getting pushed back...its taking quite a long time to get my laptop here


When did you order yours?...I ordered mine on May 8th and right now it's sitting at home in the box in my closet for the past two weeks...I'm in China for work but will be home this weekend...

Sorry to here your still waiting

[fallenxlionheart]

i ordered mine on the 14th...i ordered the i7 940

[porky133]

Well, at least part of your wait is the cpu upgrade that you are getting at no cost. As with any new and exciting device initial demand exceeds supply. It would be nice if manufacturers could have a large inventory when they release a new product, but those days are gone.

[fallenxlionheart]

i understand...it just seems like its in no hurry to get here because whenever i think its going out it just gets pushed back for whatever reason

[KY_BULLET]

You must have just missed the first wave by a few days..Total wait time for me was 28 days...That is from the time i ordered to the time it hit my front door. so, it's been home for almost 2 weeks. Just be patient..I know it's hard but, i'm sure you will get it soon.

[uavmx]

AAHHH its all been pushed back another week...

my order went from "maybe 10 days" to "maybe 2 weeks" to now it looks like 3 weeks or more...

[fallenxlionheart]

what time did you order yours uavmx?

[uavmx]

what time did you order yours uavmx?

i had just missed the first round that went out. I think it was towards the end of may

[mupet]

When did you order yours?...I ordered mine on May 8th and right now it's sitting at home in the box in my closet for the past two weeks...I'm in China for work but will be home this weekend...

Sorry to here your still waiting

how did you use the payment method? i also abroad US and Justin told me i'm not able to pay Via Paypal :(:confused::mad:

[KY_BULLET]

Well i paid on line(not through XOITCPC:() with my Bank Card...i live in Kentucky, i'm just here for work...And, i'm going home this weekend.

Everything went through fine. Now shipping it to China would have been another question(duty taxes,shipping charges which would have put me way over my spending limit)...That might not have been an option. I don't know, i didn't ask:confused:

[DrewB]

Who wants to be the first to get some live footage of this beast on YouTube? C'mon!

:D

[porky133]

Yeah, where are the unboxing videos and benchmarks?

[DrewB]

Yeah, where are the unboxing videos and benchmarks?

There is a benchmark topic on the forum, BUT WHERE ARE THE UNBOXING VIDS!? :(

[fallenxlionheart]

There is a benchmark topic on the forum, BUT WHERE ARE THE UNBOXING VIDS!? :(

the instant the 9280 arrives at my door ill have an unboxing vid....

come on xotic....dont let me down

[DrewB]

the instant the 9280 arrives at my door ill have an unboxing vid....

come on xotic....dont let me down

Thank you man!

come on xotic....dont let him down

[fallenxlionheart]

lol love the support drewb.... im checking the email every day but still no ship date? oh well ill give it a week

[Zedmec]

also waiting for mine....waiting is not something i am good at.

[fallenxlionheart]

i ordered mine like may 14th...i would have expected to have gotten it by now....so hard to be patient

[Zedmec]

i ordered mine like may 14th...i would have expected to have gotten it by now....so hard to be patient


mine was ordered June 6th, suppose to get it by the 29th of June.
not as bad as some people i have heard have been waiting almost twice as long like yourself but I think the folks who ordered this model are the type with no patience and short little spans of attention.:wink2: like myself

[JETPETER1]

me too.... I have never waited this long for a computer ever. I hope it is worth the wait... I check internet forums all the time...and no one is actually using one yet... hmmmm...

[Imbranato]

Can anyone verify that the folks at xotic didn't just pack up and move to Mexico with our money?:wink2:

[uavmx]

yea waiting for a month for a pc that was "in production" seems crazy....

[Zedmec]

Can anyone verify that the folks at xotic didn't just pack up and move to Mexico with our money?:wink2:

unless you go knock on their door how could you ever verify that will an online sales company?

Yee have little faith

keep the faith they will get here, but never soon enough

[fallenxlionheart]

its hard to keep faith when ive spent over 2k on a compuer that i ordered over a month ago... odd that i ordered mine much earlier than zedmec but he is likely to recieve his b4 i do...since i havent got much word on the status of my order after xotic recieved its replacement units....i assume its being built now...but who knows

[Rassalon]

its hard to keep faith when ive spent over 2k on a compuer that i ordered over a month ago... odd that i ordered mine much earlier than zedmec but he is likely to recieve his b4 i do...since i havent got much word on the status of my order after xotic recieved its replacement units....i assume its being built now...but who knows

I ordered mine on May 6th and with the custom skinning I got it just last night. Having said this it's an awesome machine. Worth the wait and fast as all hell. Keep the faith it does take time but it was worth it for sure. Just remember to update the power DVD software before you try to play any blueray DVD's or it won't play them. The unit is perfect !!

[fallenxlionheart]

im glad to hear your enjoying the machine...i cant wait to get a chance to put my hands on this baby....whoo!! im gunna be gaming up a storm

[JETPETER1]

I talked to the nice folks here today and still no answer as to what the delay is...honestly, this is very discouraging... I ordered june 3rd and was supposed to know two weeks ago, then last week...then last friday...then yesterday and today, they told me on the phone they have no idea when the 9280s are coming... deciding what to do..cancel the order? Out of principal I am tempted... I do need a machine and can not wait another few weeks of uncertaintity...I want to give XoticPc my business... but is Sager a company that provides no communication to their vendors?

[wadwad214]

well IMO sager is also waiting for clevo's response, thats why xotic can't give you guys an answer right now about your order status. when i bought mine i waited for like.. 32 - 34 days before i got mine. i know how it feels. its hard to wait. wanna buy my machine... nah! =P maybe clevo is having some hard times filling up all the orders for d900f, plus they have the new m980nu. all i can say is xoticpc will ship it to you asap once they get their shipment of d900f.

[PHOTOVIDEO]

20 days and still waiting! Question for all 9280's owner. I ordered my Sager 9280 on June 3. On June 4, I was sent an e-mail stating the following:

Sager has sold out the first shipment of this model, and the next shipment is expected to arrive in approximately 7 business days. We apologize for the delay, and we thank you for your patience and understanding that this is a newly available/released model. Once the model is available in stock and ready for production, we will send you an order status update/payment confirmation.

Today is June 23, which is obviously more than the 7 business days stated. I am still waiting for the parts. Is anyone else having to wait this long for something that shouldn't take this long to get. Or is this normal. I doubt it very much ! !

[uavmx]

going into phase 2!! woot! can't wait to hook this beast up!

[Zedmec]

i actually ordered mine thru sager, maybe why i am "supposedly" getting mine a little sooner, still not here yet so who knows...

[Zedmec]

anyone who already has their 9280 does it have two fans or four

seen some pics that show two, some show four

[JETPETER1]

Phase 2 for me too! Things are starting to happen everyone! The message came in at 3am today!

[fallenxlionheart]

Phase 2 for me too! Things are starting to happen everyone! The message came in at 3am today!


mines been in phase 2 forever....but now it seems there finally getting mine built....cant wait!!

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

All Sager 9280 orders that haven't shipped as of today, have been emailed with a status update. If you didn't receive an email update feel free to email myself or service@xoticpc.com. :)

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

i actually ordered mine thru sager, maybe why i am "supposedly" getting mine a little sooner, still not here yet so who knows...

Really? Why'd you order through Sager directly instead of Xotic PC? You won't receive the notebook any quicker by ordering directly from Sager, plus you receive less service and support from Sager. Whereas Xotic PC provides you 2 years additional labor, 24/7 domestic telephone tech support, and cheaper pricing with better service.

[fallenxlionheart]

yes admin involvement!! gotta love xotic! and thank you so much for the email update...i had all but lost hope...u guys are awesome

[Zedmec]

Really? Why'd you order through Sager directly instead of Xotic PC? You won't receive the notebook any quicker by ordering directly from Sager, plus you receive less service and support from Sager. Whereas Xotic PC provides you 2 years additional labor, 24/7 domestic telephone tech support, and cheaper pricing with better service.

honestly didn't know about you guys till I really started digging for any info on the laptop and I was sooo pissed after being really jerked around by dell I canceled my order and placed the Sager order probably a little too quick in retrospec but I wanted a new machine soo bad been down too long with a burnt up asus g1s that only boots in safe mode (gpu fried for higher graphics) still have weird colors and artifacts but anyway. the next machine will be from xotic, i mean a seller that actually participates in forums like i have seen you guys and jeez it's like amazing, great stuff and PEOPLE.

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

@Zedmec
That's completely understandable and i don't hold anything against you. Was just curious that's all. :)

Feel free to contact us again next time when you're ready for a new notebook :D

[fallenxlionheart]

Hey Justin W tell everyone thanks for all the hard work they do.

we all really appreciate it

[Zedmec]

@Zedmec
That's completely understandable and i don't hold anything against you. Was just curious that's all. :)

Feel free to contact us again next time when you're ready for a new notebook :D

no problem....I still almost in disbelief of how well everyone speaks of your service and your involvement in helping people thru forums...my wife will need a new system soon, solitare is starting to slow down.

[Justin_W@XoticPC]

Hey Justin W tell everyone thanks for all the hard work they do.

we all really appreciate it

Will do fallenxlionheart. :)

no problem....I still almost in disbelief of how well everyone speaks of your service and your involvement in helping people thru forums...my wife will need a new system soon, solitare is starting to slow down.

Thanks to the both of you for your kind words! Keep in mind I'm not the only Justin at Xotic PC, so i can't take all the credit. There's a pretty funny thread here (http://www.xoticpcforums.com/showthread.php?t=4199) about us Justin's! :laugh:

lol on the solitaire comment :notworthy

[DrewB]

Justin time!

I'm too tired to think about where I was going with that =(

And a big thanks to the Justins and people here at the forums from me aswell! Without your help, I would have never considered the w90! I'm starting to realize how much of a beautiful machine it really is =)

And don't worry! More help threads from me to come! :lol:

[fallenxlionheart]

that thread cracked me up forever..lol im glad to see the justins have a good sense of humor