Clevo W870CU

[Tititus1er]

Hi,

I was wondering if you have any informations about the new Clevo W870CU. It was presented at Computex this year. It should have the new Calpella intel processors as well as a Geforce GTX 280M.
http://www.laptopspirit.fr/42468/computex-2009-clevo-w870cu-pc-173-pouces-sous-calpella-clarksfield-gtx-280m.html
(sorry, in french)

Do you know when it could be released and if intel's Clarksfield processors will be strongly different than the core i7?

T.

[Justin@XoticPC]

I am sorry we dont have any information on this model yet. :(

[fallenxlionheart]

"YET" lol go xotic:laugh:

[NasGhost]

Clarksfield is basically, the mobile version of I7. As such, these processors should follow the trend of the previous generations of laptop processors; being slightly weaker than their desktop counter parts. However, one thing to note is the clock speed of these newer quad cores. The lowest one being 1.6Ghz and the highest one being 2Ghz ( also being around $1000 ). Such low clocks represent sort of an issue, since even though they are architectually superior than previous generation processors, they may not be superior enough to make up the difference in clock speed, that is to say, I dont believe the 1.6Ghz model will be able to outpace the QX9300 ( if so it will be barely, and that would be an amazing feat as well ), and I dont believe the 2Ghz model will be able to outpace the higher end dualcores such as the T9600. I could very well be wrong, but I dont think they will be THAT powerful.

[fallenxlionheart]

i knew that the i7 was architecturally better..bet i didnt know it was to such a great degree

[NasGhost]

Check some CPU tests over at toms hardware and see how badly it spanks every other CPU. :D

[Asakura]

Clarksfield is basically, the mobile version of I7. As such, these processors should follow the trend of the previous generations of laptop processors; being slightly weaker than their desktop counter parts. However, one thing to note is the clock speed of these newer quad cores. The lowest one being 1.6Ghz and the highest one being 2Ghz ( also being around $1000 ). Such low clocks represent sort of an issue, since even though they are architectually superior than previous generation processors, they may not be superior enough to make up the difference in clock speed, that is to say, I dont believe the 1.6Ghz model will be able to outpace the QX9300 ( if so it will be barely, and that would be an amazing feat as well ), and I dont believe the 2Ghz model will be able to outpace the higher end dualcores such as the T9600. I could very well be wrong, but I dont think they will be THAT powerful.

Yes, yes...and that why we should do extensive research on the technology before assuming things. Nehalem architecture is far more efficient than those of the past and hence it does not have to have such a high clock to compete with previous generation platform. Furthermore, it is label as such low clock in order to conserve energy and length battery life and hence less heat and happier laptops. The turbo boost will increase the clock frequency according to the need of the laptop. After all, there is no need for 3.xx Ghz for browsing and bureaucratic work.

All three will have a built in feature that will increased clock speeds and should scale up to 2.8GHz, 3.06GHz and 3.2GHz.

For those interested, here is the article featuring more detail on the roadmap of the mobile core i7 and i5: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/07/15/mobile.core.i7.i5.roadmap/

Oh, and how many of you actually thought that intel technology would suddenly retrograde and actually worsen performance compare to last year model? I mean seriously .

[powerpack]

Good points but I had the same gut feeling as Nas I wrote about months ago and the release is behind schedule. So as you say and I agree "seriously" something is going on and I think it is related to thermal issues? I could be wrong but until we see consider?

[Asakura]

Good points but I had the same gut feeling as Nas I wrote about months ago and the release is behind schedule. So as you say and I agree "seriously" something is going on and I think it is related to thermal issues? I could be wrong but until we see consider?

Actually its due to the fact that vendors have too much inventory of the montevina platform and ask intel to hold out until the diminish their stock. Also those three processor are targeting the high end market and the actually mainstream mobile unit will be release in the 1Q of 2010.

Though most of you already know, Arrandale is the name for the mainstream mobile Nehalem processor at the much more affordable cost of $200 to $340 and a TDP of 25W to 35W.

[Asakura]

Hi,

I was wondering if you have any informations about the new Clevo W870CU. It was presented at Computex this year. It should have the new Calpella intel processors as well as a Geforce GTX 280M.
http://www.laptopspirit.fr/42468/com...-gtx-280m.html (http://www.laptopspirit.fr/42468/computex-2009-clevo-w870cu-pc-173-pouces-sous-calpella-clarksfield-gtx-280m.html)
(sorry, in french)

Do you know when it could be released and if intel's Clarksfield processors will be strongly different than the core i7?

T.
http://www.xoticpcforums.com/xotic/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif http://www.xoticpcforums.com/xotic/images/buttons/white/reputation.gif (http://www.xoticpcforums.com/reputation.php?p=15931) http://www.xoticpcforums.com/xotic/images/buttons/white/report.gif (http://www.xoticpcforums.com/report.php?p=15931) http://www.xoticpcforums.com/xotic/images/buttons/white/quote.gif (http://www.xoticpcforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=15931)I'm not part of Justin circle, meaning I don't know when and what is release from cleavo/sager but I assume since the processor isn't release that there won't be any information until mid august to early September which will be closer to the processor release date but that just my opinion.

As far as difference is concern; it's around 80 percent the same with the difference being that it does not support tripple DDR3 (dual DDR3 unfortunately) and does not have intel quickpath interconnect and instead has a DMI (Direct Media Interface). Also it has its own socket: Socket LGA 1160 instead of socket LGA 1156.

[Asakura]

Hi,

I was wondering if you have any informations about the new Clevo W870CU. It was presented at Computex this year. It should have the new Calpella intel processors as well as a Geforce GTX 280M.
http://www.laptopspirit.fr/42468/computex-2009-clevo-w870cu-pc-173-pouces-sous-calpella-clarksfield-gtx-280m.html
(sorry, in french)

Do you know when it could be released and if intel's Clarksfield processors will be strongly different than the core i7?

T.

I'm not a staff of xoticpc or the likes but I think that there won't be any information until late August to mid September when it will be closer to the release date of the processor.

The processor will be around 80 percent the same with the main and I do mean main difference being that it does not support tripple channel DDR3 memory (only dual channel DDR3) and won't have intel quickpath interconnect but rather have DMI (Direct Media Interface). Oh, and unfortunately a different LGA socket. In other words, you can't just pop in a Core i7 9xx in the socket for the Clarksfield, or vice versa.

[Tabnir]

And Win7 coupon is part of the program to try to dump the Montevina platforms also since there are a lot of people holding on to their wallets just for nextgen to arrive.

[NasGhost]

Yes, yes...and that why we should do extensive research on the technology before assuming things. Nehalem architecture is far more efficient than those of the past and hence it does not have to have such a high clock to compete with previous generation platform. Furthermore, it is label as such low clock in order to conserve energy and length battery life and hence less heat and happier laptops. The turbo boost will increase the clock frequency according to the need of the laptop. After all, there is no need for 3.xx Ghz for browsing and bureaucratic work.

All three will have a built in feature that will increased clock speeds and should scale up to 2.8GHz, 3.06GHz and 3.2GHz.

For those interested, here is the article featuring more detail on the roadmap of the mobile core i7 and i5: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/07/15/mobile.core.i7.i5.roadmap/

Oh, and how many of you actually thought that intel technology would suddenly retrograde and actually worsen performance compare to last year model? I mean seriously .
I think it will to a point. For example, in the desktop sector, i7 920 is the king for consumers, but in single threaded apps, the E8600 gives a good. Personally, I dont think Intel is dumb enough to release something that would be worse than the previous gen. At the same time, I dont think the clarksfield will be to montevina as Nehalem was to Core2. I wrote an argument on another forum about how the only places a clarksfield can legitimately lose is in applications that can only use 3 or 4 cores. As you said, turbo mode will take care of any dual core situation ( I was talking about at stock, but at the same time, its not really fair to keep out a feature of the chip ), and in any multithreaded app that will take as much resources as it can will benefit from the added HT. If there can at anytime be only 3 or 4 cores in use, then the clarksfield architecture may fall, otherwise, it should come out the victor.

Im honestly hoping clarksfield crushes montevina, and I have to be optimistic because I plan on getting one:biggrin:

[Asakura]

It is much more affordable and the TDP is much lower (around 25W to 35W). Though you do get to wait for the 1Q of 2010.
Though if your like me, you probably wouldn't.

[NasGhost]

It is much more affordable and the TDP is much lower (around 25W to 35W). Though you do get to wait for the 1Q of 2010.
Though if your like me, you probably wouldn't.
:eeek2:

Im not looking forward to arandale, well, I am, but Im looking forward to clarksfield, which has a 45W TDP and is due out soon.