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    Hi,

    I just recieved my new NP9262 from Xotic PC..

    Specs:

    SAGER NP9262 Ultimate Custom Laptop (Built on Clevo D900C / D901C)
    - Display: 17" WUXGA "Glare Type"
    - Processor: ~Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz
    - Video Card: 512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce
    - Ram: ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS)
    - Primary Hard Drive: ~ 200GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 3
    - Operating System: ~Windows XPHome
    - Warranty: 2 Year Parts & Labor Warranty 24

    I love the laptop but there's a few issues i'm having and i'm hoping someone can help me resolve them without me having to send back the laptop.

    First of all... I installed F.E.A.R... It ran nicely for a while (5 mins)and then started to really lag... badly! now i only bought this game to test out the graphics on my pc and i thought that it would handle them without a problem... anyway, the game turned out to be unplayable...

    After researching on the internet it appears that there may be some conflict between running this game and using a USB mouse?!?!? have any of you guys came across this problem, or played this game on a similar setup and had/not had problems?? would like to hear about it.

    Anyway, so i assumed it was game related and wasn't fussed...

    Secondly i installed 3dmark06 (free downlod version)

    My 3dmark06 scroe was 6000!! then 6900 then 6500??!?!? what the hell? why are my socres, firstly, so bad. and secondly, so inconsistent!?

    I've read on this site that i should be reachon near 10000 points.

    Anyway, I ran the test again this morning before work and got 9300?

    I'm really confused now.. what could be causing this inconsistancy??

    another thing to note: would F.E.A.R instasll it's own drivers?? because i reinstalled the ones on the disk supplied with the laptop and they were older than the existing ones?

    Any ideas?

    Thanks,

    Jamie

  • #2
    Hello, Welcome to XOTIC PC Forums. We are sorry to hear of this issue.

    Have you made any changes to the system in between? Can you run it again and tell us what score you get?

    The latest drivers can always be found at www.sagernotebook.com
    Justin Nolte
    [email protected]
    http://www.xoticpc.com

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    • #3
      Update, Update, Update :P .
      Sager NP5792

      Microsoft Windows Vista Premium 64-Bit
      17" WUXGA
      Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 2.4GHz
      4 GB DDR2 667 RAM
      1 GB Intel Robson Turbo Memory
      500 GB 7200RPM Seagate Momentus HD
      nVidia GeForce 8800M GTX 512MB GDDR3

      FORUM TROLL 4 LIFE
      http://teamamerimixwcg.blogspot.com/...online_05.html

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      • #4
        inconsistancy... make sure your laptop is on a even surface, not on your blacket in your bed (overheating throthels down the graka.

        6000 point... i had this as well, that i installed the driver 167.44 and had 9400
        (not many driver -all the new one like 174.82 and so on perform for whatever reason bad)

        f.e.a.r... shitty programmed game, works well with the good driver! make sure not to have much crab on processes in the background (check your services, run:msconfig to check autostart progs)

        f.e.a.r doen't install his own driver (just dx9) inconsistancy with the fps sounds again like a heat prob or bad driver

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        • #5
          Thanks for the replies...

          yep it's sitting on an even surface... carpet thopugh... is that bad??

          I hope it's not overheating, one of the reasons i bought it was due to the praise it recieved for it's ability to run cool...

          wow i'm suprised a driver can make so much difference to the performance... Strange that the driver on the utilities disk was not the one installed originally...

          Could the version of dx9 that fear installed caused this problem?? if so where would i get the good version??

          what abotu the USB mouse issue... anyone experienced this??

          The only change i made was tweaking the performance/quality bar within the Nvidia settings to 'performance'

          Is it worth me reformatting??... i'd hope not to do this so soon after buying a pc but will if i have too!

          other thing to note: i have not connected to the internet yet as i'm waiting to my install virus software first...

          meaning...

          1. windows has not updated fully...

          2. it's constantly monitiring my all wireless connections that are in range and asking me if i want to connect ( i live in a block of condos! ie. lots of possible connections)

          could this be classed as a task running in the background?? i guess it could have some affect... but to reduce the 3dmark score right down to 6000

          I will uninstall fear tonight and run another test...

          also might install Kaspersky and then run the updates etc... just to see...

          any other ideas chaps??? all welcome

          thanks

          Jamie

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          • #6
            I have almost exactly the same notebook. I install the drivers that came on the disk. My 3DMark 2006 score was close to 10k, but I've heard that some of the drivers out there cut the score in half. There are new video drivers on the Sager site that actually made my score go up about 120 points.

            Also, if you have the notebook on the carpet it'll get hot. If you look on the bottom there are fans there that need to be clear. You can also use the FN+1 to make the fans run on high, that should lower temps.

            I'm using a USB mouse and haven't had any problems with it playing games.

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            • #7
              carpet is definitely not a good idea.

              Your laptop will have no ventilation if its sitting on carpet.

              it needs to be on a hard surface so that the bottom of the laptop is not pushing against anything.

              your problem is very possible that its due to heat. when your laptop overheats, it turns down the speed of your video card, usually half speed.

              put it on a table and see what happens.

              download NTune and run the Nvidia Monitor to see if your GPU speeds are 500/800 ( you will see what i mean )

              try that.

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              • #8
                By the way I have a logitech USB mouse and no problems here.
                Sager NP5792

                Microsoft Windows Vista Premium 64-Bit
                17" WUXGA
                Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 2.4GHz
                4 GB DDR2 667 RAM
                1 GB Intel Robson Turbo Memory
                500 GB 7200RPM Seagate Momentus HD
                nVidia GeForce 8800M GTX 512MB GDDR3

                FORUM TROLL 4 LIFE
                http://teamamerimixwcg.blogspot.com/...online_05.html

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                • #9
                  thanks for all the advice..

                  update:

                  It appears that it was overheating on the carpet...

                  I've just ran 3 tests in a row and hit roughly 9750 each time

                  still a little low?

                  It was the CPU score that appeared to affect the over all result... why do you think this would be?

                  SM2: 4349
                  SM3: 4177
                  CPU: 2637

                  what do other people get with this same cpu? would the drop be the difference betwwen the dual and quad core?

                  I'm not too fused now anyway, i'm just gald that the laptops not broken!

                  Cheers Aryantes, i downloaded NTune and the results were as you said, 500/800...

                  the only thing i didn't update was the driver... I downloaded it but it was corrupt!

                  what driver do people find best? cheers,

                  Jamie

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                  • #10
                    You have to remove the old driver before installing a new one or it will come up as "corrupt" or not working properly.
                    Sager NP5792

                    Microsoft Windows Vista Premium 64-Bit
                    17" WUXGA
                    Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 2.4GHz
                    4 GB DDR2 667 RAM
                    1 GB Intel Robson Turbo Memory
                    500 GB 7200RPM Seagate Momentus HD
                    nVidia GeForce 8800M GTX 512MB GDDR3

                    FORUM TROLL 4 LIFE
                    http://teamamerimixwcg.blogspot.com/...online_05.html

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                    • #11
                      Nah i meant that the archive i actually downloaded was currupt!

                      anyhow, i installed a newer driver but it had no real effect on score... except for lowering it slightly lol

                      anyone have a 3dmark score for a Duo E6850 3.0 Ghz?

                      Cheers

                      Jamie

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                      • #12
                        The FEAR problem is a memory leak because of bad programming, the VRAM just keeps filling up till its bogged down. Thats why it runs perfect for 5 mins then bogs down... also it was programmed before DX10... try updating FEAR.
                        @ JamieW: Of course a driver makes a world of a difference, it is the language the rest of the computer uses to talk to the GPU.
                        Sager NP5793
                        Vista HP x64
                        17" WUXGA
                        Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5Ghz 6Mb L2 Cache
                        4 GB DDR2 667Mhz RAM
                        UJ-220 Blu-Ray Super Multi DVD
                        200 GB HD 7200RPM
                        Nvidia GeForce 8800M GTX
                        TV Tuner Card

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                        • #13
                          3dmark06 score of my system: 9745

                          Sager np9262: 17" 1920x1200wuxga, E6850 Core2duo 3.0ghz 1.3ghz fsb 4mb L2 cache, 4mb 800mhz ram, 1x nvidia geforce 8800mgtx 512mb gpu, 3x100gb hdd 7200rpm, Raid 0, vista ultimate x64 os, tv tuner, x-fi 7.1 sound card, triple fan cooler, 2.0 webcam
                          Sager np9262: 17" 1920x1200wuxga, E6850 Core2duo 3.0ghz 1.3ghz fsb 4mb L2 cache, 4Gb 800mhz ram, 1x nvidia geforce 8800mgtx 512mb gpu, 3x100gb hdd 7200rpm, Raid 0, vista ultimate x64 os, tv tuner, x-fi 7.1 sound card, triple fan cooler, 3Dmark06 9745

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                          • #14
                            My wife left the laptop on her bed, went outside, and she heard a loud beeping so she came back in the house and it was my new NP9262, when this laptop overheats does it warn you with beeps or something?

                            I wasn't there, but I assumed the beeping was from heat, I asked her where the laptop was and when she said "Sitting on the bed" I assumed I was correct. Anyone know about this loud noise the laptop makes?

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                            • #15
                              The laptop beeps when the battery power runs out. She probably accidently disconnected the power cord and the battery ran out sitting there.
                              Sager NP5792

                              Microsoft Windows Vista Premium 64-Bit
                              17" WUXGA
                              Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 2.4GHz
                              4 GB DDR2 667 RAM
                              1 GB Intel Robson Turbo Memory
                              500 GB 7200RPM Seagate Momentus HD
                              nVidia GeForce 8800M GTX 512MB GDDR3

                              FORUM TROLL 4 LIFE
                              http://teamamerimixwcg.blogspot.com/...online_05.html

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